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Old 02-04-11, 09:44AM   #1
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Default Daisy BB gun and tin foil prove JFK assassination was a conspiracy

here is what happens when you shoot a ball of tin foil with a Daisy BB gun from the front right, it goes back and to the left as the bullet hits it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U69khAqqUUc



and here is what happened during the JFK assassination.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozx4_4DZp38



the Warren report would have us believe that Oswald was the "lone gunman" in the book depository to the rear of the president, up on a high floor. If that were true, the president's head would have gone forward and down, when hit with the bullet

that's why I say, a lot of these "conspiracy theories" are really truth, it's just the same people behind the crimes, also control the media- and if they keep telling the public "lone gunman Oswald book depository" for 50 years, and putting it in all the history books as well, people get brainwashed and tend to believe it

anyone with even minimal rifle experience can see in the Zapruder film, that shot came from the front right and down low- not from high up in the book depository.
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digitally enhanced in slow motion

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this is what the European Illuminati Black Nobility does, if a U.S. president doesn't let them control our money supply with their "federal reserve" system

JFK had just passed a new executive order allowing the Treasury to print United States Notes that were interest free and backed by silver, only a few months before he was assassinated

President John F.Kennedy,
The Federal Reserve
And Executive Order 11110



by Cedric X

From The Final Call, Vol. 15, No.6, On January 17, 1996

On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve. Mr. Kennedy's order gave the Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. In all, Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation. The ramifications of this bill are enormous.

With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business. If enough of these silver certificats were to come into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve notes. This is because the silver certificates are backed by silver and the Federal Reserve notes are not backed by anything. Executive Order 11110 could have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level, because it would have given the gevernment the ability to repay its debt without going to the Federal Reserve and being charged interest in order to create the new money. Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S. the ability to create its own money backed by silver.

After Mr. Kennedy was assassinated just five months later, no more silver certificates were issued. The Final Call has learned that the Executive Order was never repealed by any U.S. President through an Executive Order and is still valid. Why then has no president utilized it? Virtually all of the nearly $6 trillion in debt has been created since 1963, and if a U.S. president had utilized Executive Order 11110 the debt would be nowhere near the current level. Perhaps the assassination of JFK was a warning to future presidents who would think to eliminate the U.S. debt by eliminating the Federal Reserve's control over the creation of money. Mr. Kennedy challenged the government of money by challenging the two most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt - war and the creation of money by a privately-owned central bank. His efforts to have all troops out of Vietnam by 1965 and Executive Order 11110 would have severely cut into the profits and control of the New York banking establishment. As America's debt reaches unbearable levels and a conflict emerges in Bosnia that will further increase America's debt, one is force to ask, will President Clinton have the courage to consider utilizing Executive Order 11110 and, ifso, is he willing to pay the ultimate price for doing so?

Executive Order 11110 AMENDMENT OF EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 10289

AS AMENDED, RELATING TO THE PERFORMANCE OF CERTAIN FUNCTIONS AFFECTING THE DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY

By virtue of the authority vested in me by section 301 of title 3 of the United States Code, it is ordered as follows:

Section 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 19, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended-

By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j):


(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12,1933, as amended (31 U.S.C.821(b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denomination of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption

and --

Byrevoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof.

Sec. 2. The amendments made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made.

John F. Kennedy The White House, June 4, 1963.

Of course, the fact that both JFK and Lincoln met the the same end is a mere coincidence.

Abraham Lincoln's Monetary Policy, 1865 (Page 91 of Senate document 23.)

Money is the creature of law and the creation of the original issue of money should be maintained as the exclusive monopoly of national Government.

Money possesses no value to the State other than that given to it by circulation.

Capital has its proper place and is entitled to every protection. The wages of men should be recognised in the structure of and in the social order as more important than the wages of money.

No duty is more imperative for the Government than the duty it owes the People to furnish them with a sound and uniform currency, and of regulating the circulation of the medium of exchange so that labour will be protected from a vicious currency, and commerce will be facilitated by cheap and safe exchanges.

The available supply of Gold and Silver being wholly inadequate to permit the issuance of coins of intrinsic value or paper currency convertible into coin in the volume required to serve the needs of the People, some other basis for the issue of currency must be developed, and some means other than that of convertibility into coin must be developed to prevent undue fluctuation in the value of paper currency or any other substitute for money of intrinsic value that may come into use.

The monetary needs of increasing numbers of People advancing towards higher standards of living can and should be met by the Government. Such needs can be served by the issue of National Currency and Credit through the operation of a National Banking system .The circulation of a medium of exchange issued and backed by the Government can be properly regulated and redundancy of issue avoided by withdrawing from circulation such amounts as may be necessary by Taxation, Redeposit, and otherwise. Government has the power to regulate the currency and creditof the Nation.

Government should stand behind its currency and credit and the Bank deposits of the Nation. No individual should suffer a loss of money through depreciation or inflated currency or Bank bankruptcy.

Government possessing the power to create and issue currency and creditas money and enjoying the right to withdraw both currency and credit from circulation by Taxation and otherwise need not and should not borrow capital at interest as a means of financing Governmental work and public enterprise. The Government should create, issue, and circulate all the currency and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the Government and the buying power of the consumers. The privilege of creating and issueing money is not only the supreme prerogative of Government, but it is the Governments greatest creative opportunity.

By the adoption of these principles the long felt want for a uniform medium will be satisfied. The taxpayers will be saved immense sums of interest, discounts, and exchanges. The financing of all public enterprise, the maintenance of stable Government and ordered progress, and the conduct of the Treasury will become matters of practical administration. The people can and will be furnished with a currency as safe as their own Government. Money will cease to be master and become the servant of humanity. Democracy will rise superior to the money power.

Some information on the Federal Reserve The Federal Reserve, a Private Corporation One of the most common concerns among people who engage in any effort to reduce their taxes is, "Will keeping my money hurt the government's ability to pay it's bills?" As explained in the first article in this series, the modern withholding tax does not, and wasn't designed to, pay for government services. What it does do, is pay for the privately-owned Federal Reserve System.

Black's Law Dictionary defines the "Federal Reserve System" as, "Network of twelve central banks to which most national banks belong and to which state chartered banks may belong. Membership rules require investment of stock and minimum reserves."

Privately-owned banks own the stock of the Fed. This was explained in more detail in the case of Lewis v. United States, Federal Reporter, 2nd Series, Vol. 680, Pages 1239, 1241 (1982), where the court said:

Each Federal Reserve Bank is a separate corporation owned by commercial banks in its region. The stock-holding commercial banks elect two thirds of each Bank's nine member board of directors.

Similarly, the Federal Reserve Banks, though heavily regulated, are locally controlled by their member banks. Taking another look at Black's Law Dictionary, we find that these privately owned banks actually issue money:

Federal Reserve Act. Law which created Federal Reserve banks which act as agents in maintaining money reserves, issuing money in the form of bank notes, lending money to banks, and supervising banks. Administered by Federal Reserve Board (q.v.).

The FED banks, which are privately owned, actually issue, that is, create, the money we use. In 1964 the House Committee on Banking and Currency, Subcommittee on Domestic Finance, at the second session of the 88th Congress, put out a study entitled Money Facts which contains a good description of what the FED is:

The Federal Reserve is a total money-making machine.It can issue money or checks. And it never has a problem of making its checks good because it can obtain the $5 and $10 bills necessary to cover its check simply by asking the Treasury Department's Bureau of Engraving to print them.

As we all know, anyone who has a lot of money has a lot of power. Now imagine a group of people who have the power to create money. Imagine the power these people would have. This is what the Fed is.

No man did more to expose the power of the Fed than Louis T. McFadden, who was the Chairman of the House Banking Committee back in the 1930s. Constantly pointing out that monetary issues shouldn't be partisan, he criticized both the Herbert Hoover and Franklin Roosevelt administrations. In describing the Fed, he remarked in the Congressional Record, House pages 1295 and 1296 on June 10, 1932, that:

Mr. Chairman,we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government Board, has cheated the Government of the United States and he people of the United States out of enoughmoney to pay the national debt. The depredations and the iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks acting together have cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the UnitedStates; has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through the maladministration of that law by which the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.

Some people think the Federal reserve banks are United States Government institutions. They are not Government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders. In that dark crew of financial pirates there are those who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar out of his pocket; there are those who send money into States to buy votes to control our legislation; and there are those who maintain an international propaganda for the purpose of deceiving us and of wheedling us into the granting of new concessions which will permit them to cover up their past misdeeds and set again in motion their gigantic train of crime. Those 12 private credit monopolies were deceitfully and disloyally foisted upon this country by bankers who camehere from Europe and who repaid us for our hospitality by undermining our American institutions.

The Fed basically works like this: The government granted its power to create money to the Fed banks. They create money, then loan it back to the government charging interest. The government levies income taxes to pay the interest on the debt. On this point, it's interesting to note that the Federal Reserve act and the sixteenth amendment, which gave congress the power to collect income taxes, were both passed in 1913. The incredible power of the Fed over the economy is universally admitted. Some people, especially in the banking and academic communities, even support it. On the other hand, there are those, both in the past and in the present, that speak out against it. One of these men was President John F. Kennedy. His efforts were detailed in Jim Marrs' 1990 book, Crossfire:

Another overlooked aspect of Kennedy's attempt to reform American society involves money. Kennedy apparently reasoned that by returning to the constitution, which states that only Congress shall coin and regulate money, the soaring national debt could be reduced by not paying interest to the bankers of the Federal Reserve System, who print paper money then loan it to the government at interest. He moved in this area on June 4, 1963, by signing Executive Order 11,110 which called for the issuance of $4,292,893,815 in United States Notes through the U.S. Treasury rather than the traditional Federal Reserve System. That same day, Kennedy signed a bill changing the backing of one and two dollar bills from silver to gold, adding strength to the weakened U.S. currency.

Kennedy's comptroller of the currency, James J. Saxon, had been at odds with the powerful Federal Reserve Board for some time, encouraging broader investment and lending powers for banks that were not part of the Federal Reserve system. Saxon also had decided that non-Reserve banks could underwrite state and local general obligation bonds, again weakening the dominant Federal Reserve banks.

A number of "Kennedy bills" were indeed issued - the author has a five dollar bill in his possession with the heading "United States Note" - but were quickly withdrawn after Kennedy's death. According to information from the Library of the Comptroller of the Currency, Executive Order 11,110 remains in effect today, although successive administrations beginning with that of President Lyndon Johnson apparently have simply ignored it and instead returned to the practice of paying interest on Federal Reserve notes. Today we continue to use Federal Reserve Notes, and the deficit is at an all-time high.

The point being made is that the IRS taxes you pay aren't used for government services. It won't hurt you, or the nation, to legally reduce or eliminate your tax liability.
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of this order went through, US currency would have been created without interest at the source, greatly reducing or eliminating the deficit- we would not even have a $14 trillion deficit today- imagine how prosperous we would be- instead we are slowly being enslaved by the European bankers who created the Federal Reserve system

what most people don't realize is, the Federal Reserve creates money, then charges the US government interest on the money from the moment it is created, and we the taxpayers end up with the bill through our income tax payments

this is the whole reason we fought the Revolutionary War in 1776 in the first place, and the Federal Reserve system basically circumvents the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution. The Fed needs to be ABOLISHED. JFK tried and paid for it with his life, he was the only president to confront the European bankers, and they killed him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_11110

Executive Order 11110

Executive Order 11110 was issued by U.S. President John F. Kennedy on June 4, 1963.

This executive order delegated to the Secretary of the Treasury the president's authority to issue silver certificates under the Thomas Amendment of the Agricultural Adjustment Act.

Purpose

President Kennedy's Executive Order (E.O.) 11110 modified the pre-existing Executive Order 10289 issued by U.S. President Harry S. Truman in 1951,[1] and stated the following[2]:

"The Secretary of the Treasury is hereby designated and empowered to perform the following-described functions of the President without the approval, ratification, or other action of the President..."

The order then lists tasks (a) through (h) which the Secretary can now do without bothering the President. None of the powers assigned to the Treasury in E.O. 10289 relate to money or to monetary policy. Kennedy's E.O. 11110 then instructs that:

SECTION 1. Executive Order No. 10289 of September 9, 1951, as amended, is hereby further amended (a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j):

'(j) The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821(b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of an outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption,' and (b) By revoking subparagraphs (b) and (c) of paragraph 2 thereof.

SECTION 2. The amendments made by this Order shall not affect any act done, or any right accruing or accrued or any suit or proceeding had or commenced in any civil or criminal cause prior to the date of this Order but all such liabilities shall continue and may be enforced as if said amendments had not been made.

John F. Kennedy, THE WHITE HOUSE, June 4, 1963.

Revocation

E.O. 11110 was never reversed by President Lyndon B. Johnson and remained on the books until President Ronald Reagan issued Executive Order 12608 on September 9, 1987 as part of a general clean-up of executive orders. E.O. 12608 specifically revoked the sections added by E.O. 11110 which effectively revoked the entire Order. By this time, however, the remaining legislative authority behind E.O. 11110 had been repealed by Congress when Pub.L. 97-258 was passed in 1982.

In March 1964, Secretary of the Treasury C. Douglas Dillon halted redemption of silver certificates for silver dollars. In the 1970s, large numbers of the remaining silver dollars in the mint vaults were sold to the collecting public for collector value. All redemption in silver ceased on June 24, 1968.
[edit] Conspiracy theory

Executive Order 11110 is quite infamous among conspiracy theorists, such as Jim Marrs, author of the 1989 book Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy,[3] who speculate that there is a link between the John F. Kennedy assassination and E.O. 11110 by arguing that the Federal Reserve Board was involved in the murder to protect its power over the monetary policy of the United States.[4]
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JFK aimed this speech directly at the Black Nobility and Illuminati who control the Federal Reserve system, to expose them

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here is what happens when you shoot a ball of tin foil with a Daisy BB gun from the front right, it goes back and to the left as the bullet hits it...
Yep, that's exactly what happens when a very low mass, low energy, relatively low speed BB strikes a similarly low mass ball of tin foil.

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anyone with even minimal rifle experience can see in the Zapruder film, that shot came from the front right and down low- not from high up in the book depository.
I've got considerably more than just "minimal rifle experience". I've been shooting for many years. I'm certified to teach NRA classes to certify new NRA INSTRUCTORS for rifle shooting, shotgun shooting, and pistol shooting for both modern and muzzle-loading firearms. I'm an NRA-certified Chief Range Safety Officer. There's absolutely no correlation between what happens with the BB and the inert tinfoil, and what happens when a very high velocity, 150-180 grain rifle bullet strikes a comparitively high mass living being.

Understand I'm not offering any opinion whatsoever on whether or not there really was or was not any sort of conspiracy, or even whether or not there were any additional shooters. I'm just taking about what I see on the film/video from the standpoint of someone who knows what he's talking about with respect to firearms and shooting.

It'a all about inertia, mass, and the reaction of a living being. What I see on the video is a spray of blood and tissue coming out from the front of President Kennedy's forehead. That's only going to happen as a result of a high velocity round -exiting- from that point, and travelling in the same direction as the spray. That round would have had to have entered from the opposite side --- i.e. the back of his head. A round from a high-power rifle is going to be travelling so fast, well above super-sonic speed, that it's going to punch through living tissue quickly enough so that any movement of something relatively heavy compared to the bullet (his head) is going to be both very small and very slight - probably not enough to show on film/video at that distance. The rearward motion of his head in the film/video wasn't caused by the rifle round. It was caused by involuntary muscle contraction of his own body/neck in response to sudden severe trauma and instinctively trying to resist the impact sensed on the back side of his head. That's what caused his head to jerk back - not the projectile. By the time his head jerked back the round was long gone, probably embedded in the car, if it didn't pass completely through it. Bullets travelling through living tissue deform and expand as they pass through, slowing down and dragging surrounding matter with them, and out through the exit wound which will be much larger. Hence the "splatter". The entrance wound will be the same size or slightly smaller than the caliber (flesh is flexible) and will be relatively clean - the projectile tends to drag debris into the entrance wound, not out of it. Stuff only squirts out of an entrance wound if it happens to open a large major artery, and "in the movies". Neither do people "fly across the room" when hit with even a heavy, high power, large caliber round. Not even a little bit. If that were true, then it would have to also be true that the person who fired the round would also be thrown back with at least the same degree of force - Newton's 3rd law.

Again, not debating the veracity of conspiracy or number of shooters - just saying as someone very knowledgeable about firearms that what I see on that video is 100% compatible with what would result from a single, high velocity rifle round to the BACK of the head.

Trying to equate a BB and tinfoil to a high-velocity round and (relatively heavy) living flesh is just silly.

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Yeah I agree on that one...The bullet that went though his back and came out his neck, then into the Gov. was the one that always puzzle me. I've seen pictures of the exit bullet hole from his neck, it was pretty small, basically the some size as the entry hole. The put a trike in it..seems to like to cover the fact that that exit hole should have been allot bigger.
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Yep, that's exactly what happens when a very low mass, low energy, relatively low speed BB strikes a similarly low mass ball of tin foil.

Again, not debating the veracity of conspiracy or number of shooters - just saying as someone very knowledgeable about firearms that what I see on that video is 100% compatible with what would result from a single, high velocity rifle round to the BACK of the head.

Trying to equate a BB and tinfoil to a high-velocity round and (relatively heavy) living flesh is just silly.

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I'd have to respectfully disagree with you on some points- here's why.

I've been reloading, hunting, target shooting, gunsmithing since I was 8. I was helping Dad reload 308 Winchester and 12 gauge shotgun ammo as a child. I have my own 100 yard rifle/pistol range, and fire 100's if not 1000's of rounds a year through many firearms, target shooting and hunting- most of which I reload myself.

I know what happens to a game animal when it's hit with a rifle round- and it doesn't fall towards you- the bullet tends to push the animal away away from you, no matter if it's hit with a high velocity or medium velocity round, or even a low velocity muzzleloader. This is especially true with a heavier bullet, like a 150-200 grain. A high velocity round depending on the bullet weight, may even have more impact energy and impact and push the game even further away.

Take a pumpkin and set it on a fence and shoot it with a 30-06, see which way it falls. Then shoot it with an exploding ballistic tip bullet, and see what happens, and which way it falls, and how it reacts. When JFK was hit with the head shot, it is obvious from the film, he was hit with a ballistic tip bullet from the front right. Being these were not common or marketed to the public at the time, it would have been a custom made exploding bullet, i.e. ballistic tip. They are common today at any sporting goods store for varmint hunting.

Using a ballistic tip, the target reacts differently than an FMJ tip, or a standard expanding lead tip. With a ballistic tip, the bullet basically explodes on impact and that definitely will push the game animal downrange, moreso than with an FMJ or lead expanding tip bullet.

The spray of blood, hair, flesh, bone at the exit wound, will blow away from the shooter downrange with any bullet, not toward the shooter. Looking at the Zapruder film, the spray from the impact is blowing toward the back of the car- not toward the front of the car like it would with a back head shot.

Jackie Kennedy said she went on the trunk of the car, to retrieve a piece of his skull. If he was shot from the back, the skull fragment would have gone forward, not backward.

Look at the spray from bullet impact. It's spraying backwards. That doesn't happen if the bullet hits from the back.



Furthermore, the rifle that Oswald allegedly used, was not "high velocity"- it was the 6.5 Carcano, a relatively LOW VELOCITY round at only 2170- 2300 fps. I would not call that high velocity at all, it's hardly even 30-30 Winchester velocity. The cartridge was invented in the 1800's. It is a weak round compared to most others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5x52m...licher-Carcano

Ballistic performance
Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy
10.5 g (162 gr) RN 700 m/s (2,300 ft/s) 2,572 J (1,897 ft·lbf)
10.5 g (162 gr) RN 661 m/s (2,170 ft/s) 2,293 J (1,691 ft·lbf)

#2, the ammunition that was available in 1963 for the Carcano, was predominantly FMJ full metal jacket military surplus, it did not expand and explode like that on impact- military ammo is designed to put a clean hole in and out, with minimal expansion, to comply with international law governing warfare, at the Geneva convention. To assume that a Carcano did that, you'd have to also assume that Oswald handloaded the ammo with soft point expanding tips.

Professional assassins on the other hand, do use custom ammunition with exploding tips, that is somewhat well known.

http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/amk/doc/ammo.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6.5x52m...licher-Carcano

Performance

The 6.5x52 Carcano is an effective deer cartridge up to 200 m (220 yards), with properly-bulleted ammunition. Its main drawback in military use was that the standard Italian service round had a round-nosed bullet and was highly stable (did not usually tumble unless it hit bone), giving many narrow-channel straight-through wounds.[citation needed] This characteristic is due to the high sectional density of the round (the extreme bullet length compared to its diameter).

Now, if the main characteristic of a Carcano is a narrow channel wound, how did JFK's head literally explode, as if hit by a modern ballistic tip bullet ? And a FMJ round was found on the hospital cot later when they took JFK to the hospital, and it was intact and not deformed. I'm not trying to insult anyone here, but these are the facts.

Looking at the Zapruder film, notice the skin on the front right temple at impact- it's peeled backwards towards the back of the head at impact. If the bullet came from the back, that skin, scalp, flesh would not be peeled backwards- it would go forward when the bullet exited.

JFK was fired at from many directions at once, at least 2, maybe as many as 3 or 4 directions. The head shot was an EXPLODING BULLET, i.e. ballistic tip, which would cause the explosion on impact seen in the Z film, while his head went backward.

being an NRA instructor you know what an ballistic tip is, and how they explode on impact. Watching the varmint video below one can see the explosive effects of the ballistic tip ammo, and it's very similar to what happened to JFK when struck by the head shot.

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like they say a picture is worth 1000 words, this sure looks like a frontal shot to me, pushing the head back, going by my experience shooting for the past 40 years

if it was from the back, then why weren't the passengers up front hit with the head shot bullet ? The governor sitting in front of JFK had already been hit with the neck shot bullet, after it went through JFK. Logic would dictate the next shot from the back would also hit someone up front in the car. But in this we can see the governor turning is not hit by anything from the head shot.
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Question is was there a hole in the back of his head, I saw the one in his back.
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yes there was a hole in his back, just below shoulder blade- that was the first shot that hit him

Oswald if he was there with a gun in Texas Book Deposit. Bldg., never hit the president- a shooter in the Daltex building fired 4 shots, hit the president twice in back and head from a lower trajectory, and the last shot from front right was the final shot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVfIh-8nXyQ

if you watch this video you can see the hole in his back, and a Secret Service man also said he saw the hole in his back, he was riding standing on the bumper all the way to the hospital

Jackie Kennedy went on the trunk to get a piece of the JFK's brain and retrieve it, she gave it to the doctors at the hospital, and the 2 policemen riding on the motorcycles to left rear of the car, were both sprayed with bone fragments, blood, and brain matter- attesting to the final head shot coming from the front right of the car

the problem is the same people who staged the killing, still are powers to be in the media, and cloud the truth with their own documentaries filled with lies
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here is the long version of the previous video clip "the last shot" but watch the previous short "last shot" video first- because this one is 1.25 hours long

http://www.youtube.com/user/bobharri.../1/cvqCtaBkyyE

this one goes in to the fact that the shooter in Daltex Bldg. had a silenced rifle, when fired sounded more like a firecracker or car backfire- a silencer if not perfectly fitted throws off the rifle aim quite a bit, they believe that shooter fired twice, missed, then corrected by holding to the left and hit the president in the back with shot #3

Oswald, if he was armed and shooting, had a medium-powered 6.5 Carcano but they believe if he did actually fire it, he only fired one shot 15 feet over the car as a warning shot, his heart wasn't in it

the final head shot came from the front right, most likely from the drainage culvert in the edge of the road, with manhole cover over it on the sidewalk- that low angled up trajectory would blow the debris back to the left of the car and upwards, which is what happened based on the film and interviews with witnesses. The researchers now have reason to believe it came from a Remington XP-100 bolt action pistol in .222 Remington caliber- the .222 is a very high velocity small round known to tumble upon impact causing a gouging wound- if coupled with a mercury tipped bullet would explode upon impact into fragments. The .222 was the basis for the later military .223 which is still used today in the M-16 U.S. Army assault rifle.

my personal observation after 40 years of shooting, is the holding at a different point off target, to hit target, is exactly what an experienced shooter does to correct point of impact, if a rifle or pistol isn't hitting where it should- correct and keep shooting. That is a sign of a very experienced shooter.

here's an XP-100 It is basically a Remington Model 700 cut down to pistol size. I have (2) model 700's in 6mm Remington and 30-06 caliber, and am quite familiar with that action- it is one of the top 5 most popular bolt action hunting rifle actions of all time, IMHO.

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here is the Z film undamaged

http://www.youtube.com/user/bobharri...41/kq1PbgeBoQ4

it's pretty obvious he got hit with a shot from the front right that pushed him backwards, sprayed the car and motorcade riders with debris behind him to the left.

in previous videos there is one where it shows how at least 100 or more people rushed the grassy knoll right after the shooting, looking for the shooter- they went there because that's where they heard the gunshot come from- they weren't interested at all in the book depository.
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Question is was there a hole in the back of his head, I saw the one in his back.

watch the vids, there was a big piece of the back of his head blown off and swinging like a hinge hanging by the scalp, if you look at the previous videos there is an autopsy X-ray where they put the skull piece back on and took the X-ray
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Well, looking again at the clip you had in the post it still looks to me like the exit was on the "right" side of the frame, the entrance on the left. It also looks to me like he pushed his own head back when he raised his hand to the exit wound on the right side of his head. Just doesn't at all look to me to be a reaction to the round impact.
That's just what I see.

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Hum...that seem to answer allot of questions I've had in my heads for years.
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