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Old 02-20-09, 12:16AM   #1
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Default The book I'm writing about engine building

Well, I'm getting close on my book. I feel I have covered engine building from picking a good core to prep work to understanding how the machining processes are completed, and assembly. I still need to edit and insert pictures and finish the last chapter of final assembly.

My question to the board is this:
Is there something specific anyone would like to see explained in detail in an engine building book?

I think I have covered it pretty well but you know how it is, when you do something over and over everyday, it becomes second nature and sometimes we find ourselves thinking that certain things are common knowledge and I may forget to mention it. I feel I have included far more stuff than what you will find in your average "How to build and engine" book.

Please feel free to ask for anything engine related as I'm writing this book for other peoples benefit, not my own, so I feel it only right to ask input for what you would like to see or learn about.

Thank you for any input!
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Old 02-20-09, 12:58AM   #2
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Thanks Paul! This will be a Really Great Book! A couple things That May Help a Lot Of people is a Whole section Brought up Just on Measuring engine internals and the Correct way, And The Correct tools, This could save People a Lot of Money on assembly and maybe even some machinest and even some warning signs that Things aren't right and should be inspected and or fixed before further assembly "Jim Lehart Gave me this idea in another thread", Also When You go to a Machine shop What Should you be Looking for, What Questions should you be asking,What Methods are the Right way even if they take longer, Another Section Dedicated to Breaking in Cams Hyd and Sollid for thoughs who have had trouble losing lobes, Just some of my thoughts for what I would think Not many ever go over with the every day Pontiac guy But thats Very Important to their build, I know you'll do a great job, Thanks Paul!
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Old 02-20-09, 01:31AM   #3
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Paul...could you break down what the chapters or going to be on.
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Old 02-20-09, 02:04AM   #4
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Here's what I have in my table of contents so far. I have a lot more written but haven't updated the TOC yet.

Table of Contents

1.Selecting a good engine core:

2.Understanding Machining Processes. A Little Understanding May Help.
Block Cleaning:
Block Checking:
Block machining:
Align honing:
Block decking:
Cylinder boring and honing:
Installing lifter bore bushings:
Installing cam bearings:
Resizing connecting rods:
Mounting pistons:
Balancing the rotating/reciprocating assembly:
Camshaft straightening
Machining cylinder heads:
Magnafluxing for cracks:
Installing valve guides:
Guide liners:
Thinwall guides:
Factory replaceable guides:
Installing new valve seats:
Cutting the valve seats:
Refacing valves:
Resurfacing:
Installing screw-in studs:

3.Block Preparation:
Visual Inspection:
Off to the machine shop!
Tools that will be needed:
OK, let's get started:
Measuring the block:
Here are some things to measure:
Preparations for return to machine shop:
Now it's time to take it back to the machine shop.

4.Engine Assembly:
Parts Preparation:
Bearing prep:
Thrust bearing prep:
Piston ring prep:
Piston Preparation:
Connecting rod preparation:
Crankshaft Preparation:
Camshaft preparation:
Lifter preparation:
Timing chain set preparation:
Oil pump preparation:
Rocker Arm and pushrod preparation:
Rocker Stud and guide plate preparation:
Valve spring and retainer preparation:
Checking bearing clearances:

5.Tips and Tricks:

6.Glossary:

Derek, thanks for the ideas. Some I have already or am planning on covering, others I hadn't thought about. So, you see, this thread is already working!
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Old 02-20-09, 02:23AM   #5
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Reason why and when is it required for the following materials/methods:

Use of Steel 4 bolt main caps
Use of splayed bolt main bearing caps
When block filler becomes necesssary
O ringing of block deck
Alternate coolant routing schemes
Alternate oil routing schemes
Blocking off the oil filter bypass
Use of lifter bore oil restrictors
Use of lifter bore braces
Front and Mid motor mount plates
Proper crank shaft prep/ for what power level
Cast crank
Forged crank
Cast rods
Forged rods
Aluminum rods
Forged pistons
Long rods
Stroking
De Stroking
Pushrod length checking and proper valve train geometry setup
Rocker arm ratio changes
When are longer valve stems required
Sonic checking blocks & what too look for
Proper crank shaft prep/ to what level
Bearing types
Torque plate use
Align honing
Align Boring
Cam drives
Cam bearings what type /style

You posted it all before I did

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Where's the chapter on cryogenic treatment of metal parts??? HaHa!!
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Where's the chapter on cryogenic treatment of metal parts??? HaHa!!


Coming soon! Someone else recommended that same thing to me about an hour ago.

You kill me Jack!
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Reason why and when is it required for the following materials/methods:

Use of Steel 4 bolt main caps
Use of splayed bolt main bearing caps
When block filler becomes necesssary
O ringing of block deck
Alternate coolant routing schemes
Alternate oil routing schemes
Blocking off the oil filter bypass
Use of lifter bore oil restrictors
Use of lifter bore braces
Front and Mid motor mount plates
Proper crank shaft prep/ for what power level
Cast crank
Forged crank
Cast rods
Forged rods
Aluminum rods
Forged pistons
Long rods
Stroking
De Stroking
Pushrod length checking and proper valve train geometry setup
Rocker arm ratio changes
When are longer valve stems required
Sonic checking blocks & what too look for
Proper crank shaft prep/ to what level
Bearing types
Torque plate use
Align honing
Align Boring
Cam drives
Cam bearings what type /style

You posted it all before I did

Thanks for the suggestions. Some are already covered but a lot were not. Now they can be.
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You are missing one important chapter, but I want money for telling you .
oh and dont forget that you have to nitrite treat all pontiac cranks after grinding
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Are you going to touch on myths
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You are missing one important chapter, but I want money for telling you .
oh and dont forget that you have to nitrite treat all pontiac cranks after grinding

Yeah, but for all you know, I all ready covered it! Maybe if you tell me I can tell you if I covered it or not. Sound like a plan?
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Hadn't thought about that either! Not a bad idea. You mean like the whole, "you can't turn a crank .030" under or bore a block more than .060", stuff like that?
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Ok I will give it for free then.

First chapter should always be an introduction. There one lists the reason for making the book and trow in some good old pontiac stories there also.

And the last chapter should be a summary and thanks to all that helped you out with information for the book.


( and dont write like i do LOL)
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Hadn't thought about that either! Not a bad idea. You mean like the whole, "you can't turn a crank .030" under or bore a block more than .060", stuff like that?
Yes stuff like that Paul, you know how there are alot of sheeple that follow everything they hear as to being true.
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This could be a really good book.
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