Originally Posted by triathlonx13
There's always a DB in the group. KRE is kicking butt on new development.... ABOVE ALL. Name any of the other big names that are developing new products like KRE has done.
yes, KRE had some nice heads, blocks and ran some fast cars- there may have been some quality issues with heads and blocks, but there is with any heads or blocks to different degrees.
The real issue is, in the realm of creating new cylinder head designs from scratch, how fast your race car is, doesn't mean anything at all. You have to be an engineer first.
John DeLorean created the GTO- he wasn't a bracket drag racer, that raced every weekend. He probably never even drove anything faster than a 13 second street car. Yet if he was still alive, and came on PY or PZ today, under a 'nym name, he'd be bashed by the trolls that litter these message boards- because he wasn't running a car. He'd be judged by paint job and timeslip, not his engineering skill.
That's what is messed up about this hobby. That mindset has to change to progress.
So the real question is, why did it take KRE, and all the other Pontiac engine builders/vendors, this long to realize that a hemi or canted head, is better ?
14 year old kids knew this back in 1975- Chrysler knew it in 1951, Chevy woke up in 1965, and Ford changed over in 1964-69.
until now, all the Pontiac vendors were making, selling, promoting inline valve heads- we had those pathetic aluminum D-port heads, which were a step backwards in technology compared to an E-head
Roland Racing did it first, and sold around 100 pairs of CV-1 heads, and cut into their market.
so now everyone else is going to play catch-up to a real engineer, who knows casting technology- not someone who is just a weekend amateur racer and chases one fast timeslip and tries to sell parts based on it.
there's a difference, and you're seeing it first hand.
what I see is, vendors who judge designs only on timeslips, and race the same car year after year, running around the same time, get all bogged down in their own combination like they have blinders on, and can't see the advantages of competing superior designs, until it's too late, and someone else sweeps the market out from under them
my next engine won't even be a Pontiac, it's going to be an early Chrysler Hemi in a Pontiac car, because I'm not bogged down by those limitations- why go through all the trouble to change a Pontiac, when you can just run another design ? At some point it becomes not cost effective. In other words, why make a Pontiac into a hemi- just run a real Hemi- it costs about 1/4 the price, and you don't have to whittle heads out of a block of aluminum. In the end what does it matter, if the "Pontiac" block has aftermarket block, heads, crank, rods, intake anyway- it's no more Pontiac than a Chrysler hemi is.
that may sound silly, but it's done all the time in engineering circles- example: the P-51 Mustang fighter plane became great, because they took the Rolls Royce Merlin Spitfire engine and put it in the Mustang- until then, the Mustang was a slug with it's original Allison engine. When they changed the engine to the Rolls Royce Merlin, it became a superstar.