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Old 11-02-08, 04:11PM   #31
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i ran pontiacs from 59 to 67 arnie was running before me. also when i sawitched to a gto in 66 and 67 i still recieved cams from smokey then.gav3e up racing to go play army and then a family.in 2007 i crewed on and nsca pro comp.car for larry perkins and watched the pontiacs in nss run .i am now building a lemans to run next yearnthank heaven for thecvi heads they really make me want to do this.yes i am eldery but it will have a clutch.
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Old 08-10-09, 12:33PM   #32
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Default Freddie Borcherdt

The first I knew of Fred getting into drag racing was in about 1965. The Shallcross brothers were running a Willys couple gasser that had a B&M hydro in it. They had problems with the transmission and Fred agreed to take a crack at getting it to perform better. That was the start of Fred doing his own "made for racing" hydros. He did this for various cars, including Tokyo Rose, 56 Chevrolet Sedan Delivery. He built a 48 International Gasser, with Pontiac power and hyramatic that ran D/GS I think. Next he built a 57 Pontiac with fuel injection that held the I/SA record for a while. He worked with John Thropp on John's 57 Pontiac that went to the world finals in 67 or 68, don't remember the exact year. Rocky's Goat followed all of this. He also collaberated with George Cureton on George's 58 injected Pontiac I think.
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Old 08-10-09, 10:30PM   #33
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I watched Spidel run Fred Hurst [Hurst in a silver 58 chiefton] Spidel in a 59 cat
at the last race at Stout Field in 1959. Both 3speed cars Spidel won by a fender
running 14.00 at about 100mph. Most know Hurst running A Gas Supercharged.
Marroon 40 willys. I raced Fred at the 61 Nationals barely beat him 1st round of
B Stock. He had a Red 59 Cat that year.

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Old 08-11-09, 02:33AM   #34
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... I think he's still racing today...
Maybe not "racing" per se, but Jim did drive a race car down the track at Norwalk Sunday. At age 83 he still "drives like he stole it"!
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Old 10-11-09, 09:32PM   #35
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Post Oldest Pontiac Drag Racer

RE: Fred Borcherdt
49KB5 posted information was almost all correct.
You really have a great memory. I know Fred Borcherdt and raced with him for many of the glory years.
Fred raced an International truck powered by a Pontiac in 1956. He raced it in " D/Highway" not gas class.
Fred built his own engines and was a automatic transmission guru in addition to driving the cars.
If I remember correctly highway classes were almost like gas classes but you were limited to one four barrel carburetor.
All the other information is right on.
If Fred drag raced Pontiacs in 1956 he well may be the oldest Pontiac racer.
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Old 10-11-09, 09:37PM   #36
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FRED BORCHERDT...just join PZ...but seems to be having trouble posting.

Welcome to both of you guys. Intersting history.
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Old 10-12-09, 10:13AM   #37
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Default Anybody raced Pontiacs longer than Wangers?

Roy McKinney, of Richmond Indiana. His son Mike won alot of Stock, Super Stock races with their 68/69 firebirds. I bought their 77 Astre in 84, real nice people.


It would be nice to know how they are doing?
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Old 10-12-09, 10:32AM   #38
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Jess Tyree is up there,believe he raced from 59,still racing.He drove some of M/T cars in the 60s.Tom
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Old 10-13-09, 07:41PM   #39
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Dear 49KB5:

Been talking to Fred Bourchardt and he would sure like to know who you are and how you know him. But he has not been able to figure out how to post.

So 49KB5 could you get back to me and let me know who you are and how Fred can contact you.

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Old 10-13-09, 07:46PM   #40
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Dear 49KB5:

Been talking to Fred Bourchardt and he would sure like to know who you are and how you know him. But he has not been able to figure out how to post.

So 49KB5 could you get back to me and let me know who you are and how Fred can contact you.

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Old 11-03-09, 10:46PM   #41
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My friend Bob Maxey was one of the true pioneer of Pontiac Racing IMO.
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Old 11-11-09, 08:57PM   #42
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He's not famous, but my dad began racing pontiac's in 57. He's 76 yrs. old.
still occasionally races his low 11 sec. street T/A to this day. He's also raced a 65 421 ho Cat. in H stock. (his first new car and we still have it) Also a 69 LeMans with a 455. His name is Mick McCarty. he worked for Pontiac for 42 years. Metal finished the alu. panels in the early 60's. Thanks for reading, Mike
He is still racing Pontiacs at 77! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpB4lWOtolE
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Old 02-28-10, 08:22PM   #43
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so what more on Fred Borchert? Is he on board?
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any more on Freddy Borchert, sure would like to say hello.
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Don't recall him being on this board, unless he's going by a different username then his own name.
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