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Old 05-02-11, 01:32PM   #16
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Jim thinks there is a couple more tenth in it with a 2-4 intake and clutch and engine tuning.Also with a port job.Tom
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Old 05-02-11, 02:58PM   #17
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Its all about the weight,ask Tom to lift the ci/weight for the heads up race and you will see alot of pissed off people.Weight is the equalizer in competetive racing,anyone can put a basic motor in a roller skate and go fast there called dragsters.
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Old 05-02-11, 03:22PM   #18
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real race cars are NOT heavy and run race gas!People with heavy cars put bigger motors so they can compete in some form.Some run pump gas to save money when on a tight budget.JMO,Tom
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Old 05-02-11, 03:23PM   #19
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Its all about the weight,ask Tom to lift the ci/weight for the heads up race and you will see alot of pissed off people.Weight is the equalizer in competetive racing,anyone can put a basic motor in a roller skate and go fast there called dragsters.
► 2840 / 472 = 6.017 lbs / ci not really a skate board
► 535 ci * ( 2840 / 472 ) = 3219.07 lbs

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Old 05-02-11, 04:44PM   #20
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[quote=ken c;388699]This is the pump gas record at this time . I don't care if you put your motor on a roller skate and beat this record.Just do it.[/qoute]

It's a play on words and not surprising coming from you. A while ago you said his heads where porter to flow 380 cfm ( I'll have to dig out that post ) when he went the 9.80 with the motor in his car. Now your saying out of the box High Ports. Anyone can put a pump gas motor in a super light car and clam having pump gas record. So knock yourself out. But the real world is pump gas street car, register and tagged closed exhaust. So who really gives two chits about a light race car running pump gas.
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Old 05-02-11, 04:53PM   #21
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Lou,I talked to Jim.This is the motor out of the 61 wagon.Bone stock hi ports.472 in iron block.The 63 wagon weighs 2840 with this motor.Single 4 bbl and 92 gas with 30 degree timing.They just put this motor in the car to play around.When race time comes around the real motor is going back in the 63 wagon.FWIW,Tom
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Old 05-02-11, 05:38PM   #22
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Sorry Tom, not impressed.
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Old 05-02-11, 06:07PM   #23
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I was not trying to impress anyone,just stating facts as I have been told them.A lot of so called pum pgas engines I read about are 11-12 CR like a EMC engine that can exist on real 91-93 "pump" gas and as you know 112 comes out of a pump also.Tom
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Old 05-02-11, 06:31PM   #24
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Not a pump at most local gas stations,my motor is 11.1 on the money and was dynoed on gas we picked up at an exxon station on the way to the dyno.
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Old 05-02-11, 07:59PM   #25
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Congrats to the Picketts. That's hauling even at that weight on pump gas. That's still not a super light weight car. I still believe Frank holds the record on pump gas, even if it was an accident.
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Old 05-02-11, 09:52PM   #26
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Sure would like to know what cam is in that thing.
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Old 05-02-11, 10:43PM   #27
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I guess it's all in how you look at it. At 2840 lb it's 520 lbs lighter then my car at 3360 lbs. If they are unported High Ports it just shows the effect weight has on ET. Sure 8.80 is fast no doubt, but it's also the way one comes off anoucnceing it. You could say Franks ET 8:01 was an accident but still it's a record. How fast would you be EC if your car weigh 2840 lbs. The whole pump gas deal was consider for street cars, not super light race cars.

I suppose 2840 lb could also not be consider as a light car, but how many cars can get down to 2840 lbs. Even with fiber class front ends. Not many
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Not saying its not fast just as impressive as a car running that 400lb heavier.
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Not saying its not fast just as impressive as a car running that 400lb heavier.
► 2840 / 472 = 6.017 lbs / ci
► 541 * ( 2840 / 472 ) = 3255.17 lbs

Actually if you have a 541 ci engine you need to be
► 3255.17 - 2840 = 415.17 lbs heavier

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did i miss the info?..so its 2850 lbs..how many cubes?..stock block?..
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