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Old 07-17-19, 12:39AM   #16
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Its all good Tom. You are one of the best posters on all the Pontiac boards. Smart and mean well IMO.
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Old 07-17-19, 01:07AM   #17
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I heard rumors that Venolia Pistons & Rods may be ceasing operations.
The website is still up so who knows.
Their stuff is always top notch.

ARIAS is now part of the CP-Carillo organization
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Old 07-17-19, 01:32AM   #18
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They were one of the best pistons for sure.
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Old 07-17-19, 01:37AM   #19
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Its all good Tom. You are one of the best posters on all the Pontiac boards. Smart and mean well IMO.
For sure...and the sponsor of Norwalk heads up race for many years. This cracked me up....Kinsler won it two years in a row. Tom response even a blind squirrel gets a nut once in a while.
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MB Ö was working it so Eric at Electronic Chrome would be able to use the Scat crank that was over-etched he had to replace at his cost and still provide me with something I can use Ö figured I might get a good deal as well. Found someone finally who will stroke and chrome to Paul's standards .. want to keep him.

Steve C .. reducing journal to mate with 2.100 BME rods I have already for next Pontiac endeavor


Sprint .. I know, cant understand why that guy did that to me, or how he stays in business as he has done it to others by online accounts, he is a good talker .. doer not so much, at least for me.
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Ummmmm ...... All this for aluminium rods on a mostly street application using a small Nunzi 068 hydraulic flat tappet cam that will result in a lower RPM combo !


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Old 07-17-19, 01:29PM   #22
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Lou,are you going to drag your ass to Norwalk?Im bringing some SoCal guys including John Angeles.Tom
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Steve,DONT try to go there!He has been looking for HP in all the wrong places for as long as he has been posting!Tom
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Lou,are you going to drag your ass to Norwalk?Im bringing some SoCal guys including John Angeles.Tom
Unfortunately not, we had plans to, but my son broke his arm. Worst break possible. Broke it right at the elbow. If it wasnít for bad luck Iíd have not luck at all. The plan was to bring car and back up that 867 hp pump gas motor. Why to much for me to do 12 hour drive by myself. After finishing 6 months of chemo. Good news is Iím back up to 175#.
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Steve,DONT try to go there!He has been looking for HP in all the wrong places for as long as he has been posting!Tom
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Electronic Chrome in Santa Ana stroked and chromed my Scat forged crank to Paul C's satisfaction. Took 6 mos. They will possibly weld or sub-out a second one (actually the first) that was over-etched for my BME500/2.100 application hopefully this winter. Thrust will need to be welded at least.

Find it hard to believe that safety/strength factor is bridged reducing most cranks beyond 10/10 if conversion bearings are readily available, especially with forged aftermarket crank but may be true. Factory cranks have been being reduced for years way past .010 on rod journal anyways. Will be reducing a 2.200 rj on a Scat crank with lightening holes that are not drilled( I believe called "gun-drilled") concentric to journal. As long as lightning hole gets no closer than .250 to journal surface or .125 to oil passage, I believe durability will be sufficient with safety factor. Lightening holes are sizable, not sure where the closest point to journal surface is.

I have heard good things about Marine Crankshaft online and from Tom, Mile High in Denver from Paul, I had heard some negativity online about Crankshaft Specialists in Memphis though they had been used by Jim Butler years ago, I decided to try them anyway after discussing the negativity with Doug Rowe, the current proprietor, a poor decision that didn't work out for me. I wouldn't pay for anything from them before I received it, I completely paid for a crank and was never sent anything. Whole process strung out for nearly 3 years. Electronic Chrome can do everything he said he could do and got it done for me, to Paul's standards.
Light cranks and rods mean "nothing" for making power. It can be useful helping make max effort stock blocks not crack up the middle. Engine makes the same power with heavy rotating assembly or a light one. And too light will actually make your car slower. It kills the 60 foot.
Whittmore proved it years ago. Had a engine with steel rods and crank. customer wanted aluminum rods and light crank. Dan gave him what he wanted. Same cam, same CR. Engine dynoed within 5HP. Car ran slower with poor 60 foot.
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Unfortunately not, we had plans to, but my son broke his arm. Worst break possible. Broke it right at the elbow. If it wasn’t for bad luck I’d have not luck at all. The plan was to bring car and back up that 867 hp pump gas motor. Why to much for me to do 12 hour drive by myself. After finishing 6 months of chemo. Good news is I’m back up to 175#.
Good news is I’m back up to 175#. I wish i was I get fat just looking at food. Lol. Hope you are doing well with the cancer Lou. I just lost my sister to it. Stay in the fight.
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Good news is Iím back up to 175#. I wish i was I get fat just looking at food. Lol. Hope you are doing well with the cancer Lou. I just lost my sister to it. Stay in the fight.
Itís tuff losing family. Stuff you never get over. Iím doing good.
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"More Power for Any Engine"
Brand-Indifferent Techniques You Can Do
Hot Rod / Nov 2002

17 items listed among them was aluminum rods and light crank.

Couple the light alloy rods with equally weight-conscious pistons, and you'll reduce stress on the block and crankshaft at maximum output while channeling surplus power to the slicks.

While more benefit is gained by the reduction of reciprocating mass (things that change direction) than rotating mass, a lightweight crankshaft is valued weapon in the horsepower arsenal, especially if the hefty stock pistons and rods are also replaced with lighter components.

Both expensive overkill for the small Nunzi 068 hydraulic flat tappet cam combo that will result in a lower RPM !


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Steve ... thought I said several times the 2.100 crank is for the next motor. Not the 444 I have going currently which may use the Nunzi cam I have already cryo'd or the Howards flat tappet I just purchased listed on my build thread. It uses 6.900 steel H-beam rods. It will have ported 96's that may feature custom 7mm stainless valves. Once debugged and run for at least a season I may try to add turbocharging. I still feel the Nunzi cam might be a good candidate for boosting per the Alex Bell book I was reading. The Howards I just bought probably a better candidate for a kick in the pants and use with Rhoads lifters Im using if I can feed it correctly with my induction system. The car will be mainly a street car but will also be used for my first excursion to the strip in my own car, a 71 Formula, something I can experiment on and have fun with and hopefully not break too often.

Most likely cam for the 2.100 Scat crank/BME rods FOR THE NEXT MOTOR is a nos solid roller Ultradyne NR100 that I have. Also have a "lift rules" Lunati cam that looks wild but easier on lifter bores. May get a new cam as well, I will use what I learn from the first motor. The main reason I am using the BME 500 rods is they are supposed to be good for 1500HP which I felt was a comfortable level of safety factor in a max effort engine. I believe the lighter weight of them is part of that HP rating as it is easier on rod journal. I have read previously that the mass of the rotating assy being heavier has positive effects on some things but sure see a lot of BME stickers on winning racecars. Hope to use next motor in my Astre wagon that will probably be a little too squirrely to drive on the street. I may anyway

Have to get something done and a satisfactory crank is at Paul's now .. I have learned a bunch here and don't expect to be the fastest car in the west, I don't have the pockets I will have a car that is pretty, fast and built per my choices, hopefully a blast to drive on the street.
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