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Old 03-20-08, 09:07PM   #1
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Hi, I am having slow/no drainage to the street to the point that it is backing up inside the house. I have an access pipe out by the street(12ft or so to the curb). I can see water in that pipe, about 5 feet from the top. I am thinking I shouldn't see any water there. I tried 1/2 snake down the access pipe with no more than 15 feet til it stopped. I am not sure if it went the correct way. I then removed the ground level toilet(where it was backing up) and ran 50 ft snake with no results and no resistance. My question is does the outside access pipe intersect at a 90 degree angle and if so how do you know it the snake is going in the right direction? I think the problem is out by the street. Thoughts? Is it time to call a plumber? Thanks
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Old 03-20-08, 09:18PM   #2
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Hi, I am having slow/no drainage to the street to the point that it is backing up inside the house. I have an access pipe out by the street(12ft or so to the curb). I can see water in that pipe, about 5 feet from the top. I am thinking I shouldn't see any water there. I tried 1/2 snake down the access pipe with no more than 15 feet til it stopped. I am not sure if it went the correct way. I then removed the ground level toilet(where it was backing up) and ran 50 ft snake with no results and no resistance. My question is does the outside access pipe intersect at a 90 degree angle and if so how do you know it the snake is going in the right direction? I think the problem is out by the street. Thoughts? Is it time to call a plumber? Thanks
If you have an access pipe, more then likely it's a trap, so you will see water at all times, this stops the smell from coming back into the house.
a 1/2 snake won't touch a blockage, you'll need to call a plumber or roto rooter. Most likely it's either roots grown into the pipe or grease, cozying
the blockage, my guess is the problem is beyond the access point. Hard to say with out being there looking at it. The problem could also be in the trap itself.
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Old 03-20-08, 09:27PM   #3
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Snakes used for this type of blockage usually have a 2-3" cutter on the end, that ex-pans as the snake is fed into the pipe. These are also snakes
that are fed by elect machine and are constantly turning as it's fed through the pipe. From what your telling me, it's like $225.00 job that
usually taked 10-15 minutes to clear the pipe. If you have a Roto Rooter
call them, most plumbers don't carry or do this type of drain cleaning
but you can try calling some, Roto Rooter is your best bet, they do it for
a living and no one does it better then them. I'm a plumber and use them
all the time for stuff I know I would be wasting the customers time and
money trying to free.
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Old 03-20-08, 09:31PM   #4
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Thanks Gach, my access pipe is capped so no odor can escape. I thought they put the access pipe so the drain could be cleared from out side the house. Is there a way to "guide" a snake to go left or right at a "T" intersection? I was hoping to get some roots or crap on the end of the snake to confirm a blockage vs a collapsed pipe. I do have a tree above the pipe. The outside sewer pipe was replaced about 12yrs ago. Thanks
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Old 03-20-08, 11:28PM   #5
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Just rented a unit from H Depot. Ran 100' with the "spade" blade. NOTHING. Still no better. I can't be more than 80ft to the street. WTF.
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Is it blocked beyond the access pipe... No it being caped has nothing to
do with it, the trap keeps water in it. to keep the smell from the sewer
going into your house. if that snake is going down the pipe that far and it's still blocked, then the problem is from the pipe inside your house going to the access pipe.
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Old 03-20-08, 11:42PM   #7
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The access pipe goes into a tee, it doesn't change directions though.
if you were able to run that much snake you can oonly go in one direction.

Are you hitting anything with the snake.. see you need some thing that
rotates..just shoving a snake down the pipe will do nothing, you may pock
a hole in the blockage but not enough to free the blockage.

Your spining your wheels..Get Roto Rooter
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I fed the snake the full length and thought it would drain. When it didn't, I posted above. Then I couldn't get the snake out. It was jammed. I thought I screwed up the machine. I figured that was a good time to read the directions. I just kept working it as they said and after about a hour I pulled a 2ft section of roots and crap. No more clog. I ran the "saw blade" looking end through it too. "THESE PIPES ARE CLEAN"(Cabin Boy). I'll post a picture later. Thanks
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Pic of roots.

Still cleaning up.
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I'm no expert, but I'd say that if you pulled roots out of your sewer line to the street then you have some major problems! The sewer pipe has been compromised and needs to be dug up and replaced ASAP.
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Pic of roots.

Still cleaning up.
Holly shit there Andy you got some roots out of that pipe. So that's what
you where hitting. I've had a root problem for the last 4-5 years. Get yourself some root killer and use it a couple of times a year. So far no
roots this past year. Here's another option, do a reline. they come
an camera the line then they can tell what condidtion the pipe is in, if
there's a break in the pipe, 9 out 10 times they can reline the pipe.
as long as there's no big dip in which the pipe may have sunk. The
reline is supper strong stronger then the oil cast iron pipe or clay which
may be part way into your property. The liner is about a " thick I've
had that done and most cases it saves $1000.00 of buck and having
to tear up the whole yard.

Hey look at it this way...Home Depot is always near by..but get the root
killer it works.
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Hey Gach, I know this has nothing to do with this thread, and Mo, please forgive me for hijacking, but Gach, you live in Warwick, right? Do you know Earl from Competitive Automotive by any chance?
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hey Gach, do I just pour the root killer down the toilet?? and am I buying that in lawn and garden or plumbing?

I've used S-T drain opener a few times but still called roto-rooter within a year... I think the lines are starting to slow again.

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I bought "Zep" brand root killer. Just put a pound in the toilet and flush. I'll do it tonight so it can have time to soak in.

We decided to replace our old toilet. It was always giving me grief. Replacing the valves as well.
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You can use the root killer, but don't do it too often. The roots can become resilient to the stuff.
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